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July 20, 2008
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APTA > About APTA > APTA Committees > Universal Transit Farecard Standards (UTFS) Task Force  

Universal Transit Farecard Standards (UTFS)Task Force

Task Force Leadership Conference Call Minutes

From April 7, 2005:

(Download in Adobe PDF format)

Participants:

Tom Parker (TF Chair), BART

Martin Schroeder, APTA

Greg Garback (SI Liaison), WMATA

Dave Phelps, APTA

Chung Chung Tam (Fin Mgmt Chair), CTA

Leisa Moniz, Volpe

Rick Barrett (Fin Mgmt Vice-Chair), Quattran

Tim Weisenberger, Volpe

Carol Wise (Ops Comm Chair), COTA

 

Roll Call and Meeting Minutes Approval

Tim took the roll. There were no objections to the 3/10 meeting minutes. Tim will submit to APTA for posting on the UTFS web site.

Goals and Objectives:

The goals for the call were to get a budget update, hear a report on a WP1 issue regarding PICC-CID security, hear Committee reports, discuss the implementation of the IP policy and By-laws revisions and discuss assistance from the Smart Card Alliance to achieve UTFS goals.

Budget- Martin Schroeder

Martin reported that the program has approximately $36K available, but not all travel reimbursement requests from the FCW were submitted yet, so the true figure is probably approximately $30K. There is one planned face-to-face meeting in Boston prior to APTA’s next fiscal year. The Standards Development Oversight Committee (SDOC) has programmed $170K to UTFS for APTA FY06 (beginning July 1 ’05) and APTA is confident that approx $100K federal grant can be secured for FY06 as well. Martin emphasized that program deliverables must begin to be released in calendar ’06 to keep the Rail CEOs and SDOC confident in the capital investment in UTFS. He asked the leaders to continue to push the technical work groups regarding schedule.

Tom Parker questioned the $170K from SDOC and stated that he was expecting more like $200K from this budget. Martin will investigate further.

WP1 Security Issue- Chung Chung Tam

The WP1 team has recommended that a separate group be formed to examine PICC-CID security and recommend how the WP1 specification should address it.

The group decided to approach the Smart Card Alliance Transportation Council could be engaged to man this group. The group will be led by UTFS (preferable the WP3 leader).

ACTION: Tim W. will work with Greg G. and Martin S. to develop a one-page problem statement by COB 4/15. The TF leaders will then review.

Tam reported that the WP1 technical work group has determined that the security piece of the WP1 card specification was beyond the capabilities of that group to resolve at this point given their work resolving the comments to the spec. They suggest appointing a separate group to examine the PICC-CID (card-reader) security section and all references to it in the WP1 spec and determine how UTFS must address it. The WP1 team felt they didn’t have the resources to properly address security in a timely manner. Tam asked the leaders if they felt the Smart Card Alliance Transportation Council would be an appropriate source to man a group to tackle the issue. Discussion on the topic was positive and one point enforced was that UTFS must lead the effort; it shouldn’t simply be outsourced to the SCA Council. A point was raised that a cause for the lack of traction on security is that security schemes are proprietary and highly protected by vendors. Tim W. agreed and also stated that the issue in WP1 was not to solve security, but have a group examine it and recommend how to proceed.

Greg Garback was in support of engaging the council on the issue. He stated that the Alliance is a vast resource of organizations and people with the appropriate skill sets to help UTFS. Martin S. concurred and stated that APTA desired a cooperative relationship with the Alliance to help achieve the UTFS goals.

Greg suggested that the issue must be framed and presented to the Council. Tim volunteered to work with Greg and Martin to write a one-page problem statement by COB 4/15 and distribute to the leadership for review.

Tam Concurred with this approach, but added that he would like WP3 to lead it if possible. He was trying to get Gary Yamamura to agree to this.

Committee Updates

Financial Management Committee- Chung-Chung Tam

WP1- Held face-to-face mtg in San Francisco on Mar 24. The group has 3 issues:

  1. Security Issue (highlighted above)
  2. Limited Use Cards- group will address after comment resolution
  3. Schedule- Estimate not finishing comment resolution until end of calendar ‘05

WP3- Security Guideline is in final ballot and will be distributed to TF leaders before next teleconference.

WP4- Held face-to-face mtg on Mar 23 in Oakland and resolved issues regarding the part A/part B split of the spec. Has scheduled 2-3 days of meetings in May in Boston to review the RIS Pt 4.

SCA Transit Council proposed WP4+ scope document is being reviewed by WP1 and WP4 teams.

Tam Reported:

WP1- Held face-to-face mtg in San Francisco on Mar 24. The group has 3 issues:

  1. Security Issue (highlighted above)
  2. Limited Use Cards- group will address after comment resolution
  3. Schedule- Estimate not finishing comment resolution until end of calendar ‘05

WP3- Security Guideline is in final ballot and will be distributed to TF leaders before next teleconference.

WP4- Held face-to-face mtg on Mar 23 in Oakland. The meeting was quite successful and the group reached a consensus approach that effectively resolved issues that had previously led to group to approach the specification by splitting it into two parts- part A that would seek to review and comment the RIS Pt 4 document and a part B that would attempt to make the spec more open to non-RIS compliant card schemes. This split approach is not seen to be necessary at this point. The group has scheduled 2-3 days of meetings in May hosted by Scheidt & Bachmann in Boston to review the RIS Pt 4.

SCA Transit Council proposed WP4+ scope document is being reviewed by WP1 and WP4 teams

Fare Media Committee- Tim Weisenberger

Tim and Henry had meetings at the Fare Collection Workshop in Oakland to resolve issues regarding two final draft documents.

The Farecard Procurement Procedures Guideline-

Explanatory verbiage will be added to the document to clarify its usage as a guideline and also to amplify the need for insertion of the future UTFS card spec or an appropriate agency spec. APTA legal can then do a review in the future and publish a new revision with more specificity.

The Magnetic Stripe fare Media Guideline- Henry and Tim gained agreement from Brian Monk of Cubic to add verbiage above a table of "Recommended Data Elements" to explain the usage of the table as merely an example and not a requirement.

On 4/25, the Fare Media Committee will discuss the submission of the documents to APTA. Once approved they will be submitted to APTA for publishing. This will complete Fare Media Committee deliverables.

Tim reported:

Tim and Henry had meetings at the Fare Collection Workshop in Oakland to resolve issues regarding two final draft documents: The Farecard procurement Procedures Guideline and the Magnetic Stripe fare Media Guideline. The plan for completing these documents and submitting to APTA for publication are:

  1. Procurement Guideline: Henry, Tim, and Paula Faust gained agreement from Martin S. for APTA to publish the document with additional verbiage inserted as to the document’s use as a guideline, and that it is not intended to be pasted into an agency’s RFP. Additionally, verbiage was added to amplify that the UTFS spec in development would be used (or an AFC spec the Agency had developed.) Once this document is published, APTA legal staff can then refine as deemed necessary and distribute a second revision at a later date.
  2. Magnetic Guideline: Henry and Tim gained agreement from Brian Monk of Cubic to resolve an adverse comment (and ‘No’ vote) to the document by adding additional verbiage above a table of "Recommended Data Elements" to explain the usage of the table as an example of the types of data elements an agency should require. After resolving the comment, the document can be submitted to APTA for publishing. Tim noted that the Guideline document will be a precursor to the Magnetic Spec to be developed in UTFS.

The next Fare Media Committee mtg will be held April 25 and at this meeting Henry will seek agreement to send the documents to APTA for publishing. These documents are the last deliverables within Fare Media Committee.

Operations Committee- Carol Wise

LTK Engineering is executing on the contract for three tasks:

  1. Strategic business plan for AFC systems
  2. A needs examination
  3. An equipment review

Ops Steering Committee review and gave following comments top LTK:

  1. Add a Checklist
  2. Add Case Studies
  3. Make the document is useful to transit agencies of all sizes

Final draft due end of May. Carol noted that this date is beyond the original schedule agreed to by LTK.

There was a question of whether the TF leaders can review and direct LTK to make changes.

ACTION: Carol will review the SOW and report to the leaders if they can review without a task order to LTK.

Carol reported:

LTK Engineering is executing on the contract for three tasks:

  1. Strategic business plan for AFC systems
  2. A needs examination
  3. An equipment review

A draft has been submitted to the Ops Steering Committee. The Committee has reviewed and in a call approximately 3 weeks ago presented their comments to LTK contractor:

  1. Add a Checklist
  2. Add Case Studies
  3. Make changes so that the document is useful to transit agencies of all sizes, not just large agencies

The revision is due by the end of April. Carol noted that this date is beyond the original schedule agreed to by LTK. Martin S. asked when the document would be final. Carol replied by the end of May. Martin asked what the approval process would be.

Carol asked if the document should go to the leadership for review once the Ops Steering Committee reviews the updated draft. Tom P. asked if the leadership has changes can the document go back to LTK for revision. Carol wasn’t sure. Perhaps additional changes would have to be performed with a change order.

Dave Phelps stated that the procedure for approving reports should be outlined in the statement of work for the LTK Contract. He stated that if some or all of the LTK deliverables will be UTFS deliverables (e.g., guidelines) then there definitely should be a review and ballot as described in the Bylaws.

Carol stated that those who want to review can have the opportunity if it is in the SOW to do so. Tom directed that this review be performed. Carol will review the SOW to ensure the leaders can make changes.

 

Special Industry Liaisons- Greg Garback

Greg stated that the leaders had already covered the SIL report previously in the meeting in the WP1 security issue discussion.

IP Policy Implementation- Martin Schroeder

Martin reported that the UTFS distribution list will be used for the 60-day review. The review will be of both the IP Policy and the Task Force By-Laws. Following the review a list of those members with voting eligibility will be developed for the Task Force membership list. The baseline of the voting list is transit agencies and those private sector companies who paid $20K for voting rights.

Dave Phelps expressed concerns about this approach, stating that per the Bylaws the review list and the voting eligibility list were identical and defined. As there was disagreement that this was the case, an Action Item was created.

ACTION: Martin, Tim and Dave agreed to discuss off-line to resolve the questions related to review and voting eligibility for the BY-Laws and IP Policy ballot. Martin will distribute the review and ballot plan to the leadership asap.

The next TF Leadership call is scheduled for Thursday, April 28 at Noon Eastern Time.

Action Items

    • Tim W.- Work with Martin S. and Greg G. to draft a problem statement to address the WP1 security issue and frame how UTFS can partner with the SCA Transportation Council.
    • Carol W.- Review the LTK contract SOW and report to the TF leadership if they can review the final draft and have LTK make changes without an additional task order.
    • Martin S., Tim W. and Dave P.- Resolve the questions related to review and voting eligibility for the By-Laws and IP Policy ballot.
    • Martin S.- Distribute the review and ballot plan to the leadership asap.

 

     

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